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#1 Chefman

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 02:31 AM

Thanks for clarifying Ken.. I knew I had not got that right somehow, just couldn't put my finger on it...oh, that's a bad pun. :oops:
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Posted 28 July 2009 - 05:40 AM

Jack showed two stretches - I think you might have combined them a bit.

The first was one hand only (he used left) although I have been trying to do it with my right hand as well since I got home and discovered how much better my left hand is than my right hand. It goes like this:

Put your arm/hand out in front of your face, elbow at right angle, arm up, palm open, fingers straight, pointed up, kinda like you are going to "karate chop" something in front of you.

Now bend your first finger at the second knuckle only, to a right angle, and hold. The straighten. Keep the other fingers straight the whole time.
Then 2, then 3, then 4, then 1&3, then 2&4, etc. Then 1&2, 2&3, 3&4. You could do 1,2, and 4 then 1,2, and 3, 2, 3 and 4 as well. He suggested all combinations, but honestly if you do lots of each individual finger you will probably get most of what you are supposed to from this. I found this one pretty easy on my left hand, but on my right hand, my index and pinky just won't cooperate! So I'll keep trying every day until they do!

The other stretch was the "russian pianist" one. Palms together in front of your face (like praying...maybe it is praying if your fingers work like my right hand). Try to pull your elbows together though you probably can't touch them. Now close just the index fingers down, then back up then down the other way, keeping the other fingers up and together. Then the middles only, then the rings only, then the pinkies only. So 8 positions all together. This was not bending at the second knuckle - it was bringing the finger all the way down so all knuckles are bending.

Hope that helps. If it doesn't make sense let me know and I'll post pictures or something.

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 03:58 AM

[quote]Kent, my wife and mother in law make a mean Kool Aid pie with Jello. It would do you proud. :D[/quote]


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Posted 25 July 2009 - 03:54 PM

Kent, my wife and mother in law make a mean Kool Aid pie with Jello. It would do you proud. :D
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Posted 24 July 2009 - 05:49 AM

[quote]Adele, your lamb dish sounds wonderful. Bring on the cream! I went to school at the Culinary Institute of America, so my training is all grounded in French technique, and I thing Fernand Point said it best. Butter, butter, always butter. Give me more butter!

[b]Hopefully next year you can make it to Nashville and we can collaborate on some thing nice for our friends in the group[/b].[/quote]

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 07:13 PM

[quote]I meant think..not thing.[/quote]

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 04:24 PM

I meant think..not thing.
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Posted 23 July 2009 - 03:56 PM

Adele, your lamb dish sounds wonderful. Bring on the cream! I went to school at the Culinary Institute of America, so my training is all grounded in French technique, and I thing Fernand Point said it best. Butter, butter, always butter. Give me more butter!

Hopefully next year you can make it to Nashville and we can collaborate on some thing nice for our friends in the group.
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Posted 22 July 2009 - 06:18 PM

Thanks Michael. Yea that bending at the knuckles is hard.

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Posted 22 July 2009 - 04:52 PM

[quote]Thanks John. The amount of stuff I learned is astonishing. I am trying to put it all down so I can read my recollections and not forget them! The experience of going through this event with so many others who were just as blown away as I was..is hard to elaborate on. Can't wait for next year![/quote]

Like You I can't wait for next year but we will have to. Hope we both make it then we can exchange cooking tips as well as guitar tips. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I do a mean Lamb Dish using Lamb Cutlets, Duxelle of Mushrooms, Cheese, Cream and Brandy. Although the Cream can be omitted if your counting calories :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted 22 July 2009 - 04:51 PM

Muriel's exercise sounds like a commercial for [url=http://www.thextensor.com/]the Xtensor[/url] that we talked about in a thread on RSI last month.[list][img]http://www.thextensor.com/pages/img/xtensor-muscles.gif[/img][/list]

Jack's palm-to-palm exercise illustrates how hard it is for us to retrain our fingers to work independently of each other for playing music, rather than in lock-step tandem as in for gripping a club.
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Posted 22 July 2009 - 04:45 PM

Thanks John. The amount of stuff I learned is astonishing. I am trying to put it all down so I can read my recollections and not forget them! The experience of going through this event with so many others who were just as blown away as I was..is hard to elaborate on. Can't wait for next year!
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Posted 22 July 2009 - 04:44 PM

Thanks Chefman

That was good and those excercises I can see would help me a lot with my arthritis in my left hand. Also may others on here.

Thanks for your post and recollection. Must have been hard what with everything that was going on.
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Posted 22 July 2009 - 04:43 PM

Nice info Michael! They seem like good stretches. I like Muriel's stretches as they seems to be stretches that can be done anywhere in a relatively short amount of overall time. You described them well!

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Posted 22 July 2009 - 04:19 PM

I made mention of these in one of my posts about the gathering and Adele asked that I share, so now that I am back to work and routine I will try to describe what I recall.

Muriel talked about the opposing tendons in the fingers of your left hand needing strength as well, something she didn't find out until after she had injured her hand, leading her to this stretch.

You bring the tips of the fingers of your left hand together, thumb included, and then close your right hand around them as best you can. My fingers are short and stubby, so they don't go all the way around like Muriel's...anyhoo. You then push out with the fingers of your left hand against the resistance of your right hand, kind of like a flower blooming. Muriel commented that she will do this while she is on stage, before and after she plays a song.

The other stretch she showed is just extending your arm out, with your palm facing downward, and slowly bend your wrist back towards your shoulder. Keep your elbow straight and try to make your fingers stay together until they point to 12 o'clock.

Jack Pearson also showed us a couple stretches, but for some reason, I can only recall one right now. I believe he said he learned this one from a Russian concert pianist.

Put your hands together in front of your face, and keep your elbows together. So, with elbows together, hands palm to palm, bend each finger and its opposing finger at the same time at the second knuckle. For example, bend both index fingers simultaneously at the second knuckle, but try to keep the end of your finger straight from second knuckle to tip. Then the middle fingers, third fingers, pinky and repeat.

I found this one to be very, very hard. I can not bend my finger from the second knuckle and keep it straight at the end to save my life yet. I am working on it, and incorporating these into daily routine. Jack said that piano players and keyboard players do this one to help with carpal tunnel pain down in the wrist. I am currently trying to do this with each hand separately, so that I can get the synapses firing to bend the finger at the knuckle, keep it straight, and go to the next. Then when I can do that, I will put my hands together and try to do it as Jack showed us.

Hope this helps someone out there, and if there is anything I was unclear on, or that could be explained better, I hope someone else from the gathering will post their thoughts and recollections on this. I know it made an impression on me. I will try and remember the other stretch Jack showed us and post it in this thread.

Cheers!
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