Jump to content


Photo

What Fender ?


  • Please log in to reply
15 replies to this topic

#1 Kido

Kido

    Member

  • Members
  • 133 posts
  • LocationHanover, New Hampshire <=> Bucharest, Romania

Posted 19 December 2017 - 01:07 PM

I want to play pop country music, like Florida Georgia Line, Thomas Rhett, etc and some people recommend me Fender Stratocaster. 

 

I saw that there are a lot of options for Fender Stratocaster, but I liked two of them:

 

http://www.musicworl...nhss-91816.html

 

https://www.amazon.c...ratocaster&th=1

 

 

I saw that the pickups are different and I don't understand why and witch one is good for me.

 

Can someone tell me about the pickups for these two versions and then witch one will be ok to buy it?


Learn and Master: Guitar 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20

 


#2 UncleHammy

UncleHammy

    Member

  • Members
  • 1,261 posts
  • LocationTowanda, Kansas

Posted 19 December 2017 - 03:13 PM

Most of the modern "country" sound is played with Telecaster's rather than Strats.  Mostly the bridge pickup.  

 

If you look at Brad Paisley's guitars most are Tele's with only a bridge pickup.


-- UncleHammy

 

"If I make a mistake on guitar, nobody dies."  --Will McFarland at the 2015 Guitar Gathering

 

7

 

2013 Taylor 416ce-FLTD, 1980 Martin D25K, 2010 PRS SE Custom 24, 1968 Gibson C-1 Classic, 1992 OMI Hound Dog Dobro, 2012 Yamaha FG700S, 2013 Martin Backpacker, 2012 UncleHammy Kit built LP, 1985 Hamlin Custom fretless bass, Cigar box guitar


#3 Matonanjin

Matonanjin

    Member

  • Moderators
  • 3,098 posts
  • LocationOmaha, NE

Posted 19 December 2017 - 03:18 PM

Kido, it is completely up to you and what tone you want.  The Fender Strat has historically been a single coil instrument and that was its claim to fame. Again, historically, if you wanted that single coil sound, that made surf music sell millions of records, you bought a Strat.

 

If you want "to play pop country music" my first thought is you want the SSS configuration, your second link. That is what is in my Strat. In fact, mine has the "Fat 50's" exactly like the Strat in your link.

 

I'm not sure when Fender came out with the Humbucker in the bridge pickup.  It was a response to compete with the warmer sound of the Gibson Les Paul.  So if you want access to  the fuller tone of the humbucker then you might want to consider your first link. 

 

I'm not sure what guitars you have now.  If you already have one with humbuckers maybe you want to consider the different tone a "pure" single coil guitar is going to give you.  If not, then maybe the flexibility of a humbucker equipped Strat is best.

 

You're not going to go wrong with either.


Guitars: 2013 PRS Paul's, 1972 Gibson ES-325 (Used by Steve on Live Lesson March 29, 2016), 2012 Fender American Standard Stratocaster, 2011 Gibson Les Paul Studio Deluxe, 2015 Epiphone Casino Coupe, Walden G740CE, 2012 Yamaha Pacifica
Amps: Fender Blues Junior III, Boss Eband JS-10, Boss Eband JS-8, Fender Mustang Floor multi-effects amp, Line 6 POD HD500X

Study materials:
L&M Guitar: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1112 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
L&M The Song Hits: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
L&M Blues Guitar: not started yet.
L&M Guitar Set Up and Maintenance: not started yet.
Piles & Piles of other stuff I've purchased and not started yet!


#4 Grog

Grog

    Member

  • Members
  • 954 posts

Posted 19 December 2017 - 05:05 PM

I want to play pop country music, like Florida Georgia Line, Thomas Rhett, etc and some people recommend me Fender Stratocaster. 

 

I saw that there are a lot of options for Fender Stratocaster, but I liked two of them:

 

http://www.musicworl...nhss-91816.html

 

https://www.amazon.c...ratocaster&th=1

 

 

I saw that the pickups are different and I don't understand why and witch one is good for me.

 

Can someone tell me about the pickups for these two versions and then witch one will be ok to buy it?

I have a Strat, American Standard w/1970's PUPS. I'm a lefty so don't pay attention to that. I find the Strat, over all, to be a much higher tone than my SG 400. More of a bright sound to it. The neck is shorter in length and the strings are generally of a lighter gauge.

The sound is going to be all yours once you get to playing. Most players change the PUPS and find a gauge string they like. Pedals also work into the mix for your sound, as will your amp.

Good luck Kido. I wouldn't worry too much. You will purchase more guitars as you progress on your guitar journey.

Attached Thumbnails

  • 1600-StratAMLMBK2_front.jpg


#5 Eracer_Team -DougH

Eracer_Team -DougH

    More Gear than Playing Tallent

  • Validating
  • 7,239 posts
  • Locationhere and there

Posted 19 December 2017 - 05:50 PM

If you want a "Swiss army knife" of tone.. go with a Strat.


Want more country go tele
Eracer_Team (DougH)
Eracer_Team Reverb-Nation Music Site
Eracer_Team Sound-Cloud Music Site

Words of Guitar Wisdom from Steve Krenz

LMG Live Lesson Archive


Access MikeM's LMG Yahoo group here: Mike's Yahoo LMG Support Group Site with Special Group Member Downloads
There are courses corrections of the original manual, charts, music, and guitar pro settings

Download LMG Manual's and Other Useful LMG Files Click Here

Sessions "somewhere between Sessions 8, 9 and 11"

#6 Kido

Kido

    Member

  • Members
  • 133 posts
  • LocationHanover, New Hampshire <=> Bucharest, Romania

Posted 19 December 2017 - 09:04 PM

Thank you all for your answers.

 

Right now I have a Yamaha Pacifica ( the one in the link ihas the pickups perfect, mine doesn't) and with humbuckers. The problem is that the first coil is low, and is ok, but the sec one and the humbuckers are to high and the guitar doesn't have a system to lower them, or at least I don't see it. Because they are to high the strings made some signs in the humbuckers. Some friends told that this is a factory mistake and this is a guitar to learn. I bought it new from Amazon and was ok for 3 years, but now, because I like electric more than acoustic I have to save money and buy a new one.

 

Thank you Matonanjin and Greg for your details.

 

What do you want to say, Matonanjin by this: "flexibility of a humbucker equipped Strat is best"   ?


Learn and Master: Guitar 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20

 


#7 CapM

CapM

    Member

  • Validating
  • 1,635 posts

Posted 19 December 2017 - 10:13 PM

I have two Strats and two Tele's.  IMHO, the beauty of the Strat is in the neck PUP tone and the out-of-phase tones (selector switches 2 & 5).  The single coil bridge pickups in my Strats are very thin sounding, so I never use that PUP.  I don't have the HSS configuration (I have plenty of HB-tpe guitars for that).

 

That's why the bridge humbucker configuration has become so popular.  It's an attempt to keep the neck tones of a Strat but also get the bigger humbucker sound in the bridge (like a Les Paul).  I will say it is a more modern configuration and probably more versatile.  But if you want the more vintage configuration, go with the SSS. 



#8 gotto

gotto

    Member

  • Members
  • 2,903 posts
  • Locationsouthwest, wa.

Posted 19 December 2017 - 11:52 PM

I want to play pop country music, like Florida Georgia Line, Thomas Rhett, etc and some people recommend me Fender Stratocaster. 

 

I saw that there are a lot of options for Fender Stratocaster, but I liked two of them:

 

http://www.musicworl...nhss-91816.html

 

https://www.amazon.c...ratocaster&th=1

 

 

I saw that the pickups are different and I don't understand why and witch one is good for me.

 

Can someone tell me about the pickups for these two versions and then witch one will be ok to buy it?

For what it is worth, the electric guitar used most often in Florida Georgia Line is a PRS with humbuckers, Mcpherson acoustics. The guitars used by the Thomas Rhett band are mostly Tele ( which Rhett personally prefers to play), and occasionally a strat.

 

Greg



#9 oldjock

oldjock

    Member

  • Members
  • 291 posts

Posted 20 December 2017 - 01:10 PM

My two cents is there are many choices. Tele's, Strat's or PRS. any of the sound variables (pick ups, strings, woods, saddles, nuts or picks)

can be changed to accommodate the sound which you are looking for.

So with that in mind, go for the one which looks great. Also gives you a super incentive to want to play.

I went for the PRS Santana. New TUSK XL 1 3/4" nut with GHS Boomer extra light strings and viola!

Looks gorgeous and I can't wait to play it every evening.

 

Henk



#10 Kido

Kido

    Member

  • Members
  • 133 posts
  • LocationHanover, New Hampshire <=> Bucharest, Romania

Posted 20 December 2017 - 01:46 PM

After searching what is a coil, what means humbucker, what is MN or SW, SSH or SSS, etc, and reading this article + listening how sounds what the guy is playing, I guess I go for this guitar( assuming that is the same guitar in all 3 links ):

 

 

the article

 

https://www.thomann....assic_mn_fr.htm

 

http://www.guitarsho...caster_p11.html

 

http://www.musicworl...ermn-73423.html


Learn and Master: Guitar 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20

 


#11 guitarben

guitarben

    Member

  • Members
  • 8 posts
  • LocationMontreal

Posted 20 December 2017 - 02:54 PM

In case anyone else is wondering, here's an interesting video that explains the differences between the 3 main types of pickups: Single coil, P90 and Humbuckers:

 

https://youtu.be/VlrwHBOmoJQ



#12 Matonanjin

Matonanjin

    Member

  • Moderators
  • 3,098 posts
  • LocationOmaha, NE

Posted 20 December 2017 - 03:10 PM

What do you want to say, Matonanjin by this: "flexibility of a humbucker equipped Strat is best"   ?

Kido, what I was trying to say is that what guitar(s) you currently own might influence your buying decision.  At the time I didn't know that you have the Yamaha Pacifica, which is a S/S/H configuration.  I was suggesting that if you currently have a humbucker equipped guitar then go for a single coil Strat (S/S/S) for the different tone.  If you don't currently have a humbucker guitar then go for a humbucker (S/S/H) Strat for the flexibility of both single coil and humbucker that guitar would provide.

 

After searching what is a coil, what means humbucker, what is MN or SW, SSH or SSS, etc, and reading this article + listening how sounds what the guy is playing, I guess I go for this guitar( assuming that is the same guitar in all 3 links ):

 

 

the article

 

https://www.thomann....assic_mn_fr.htm

 

http://www.guitarsho...caster_p11.html

 

http://www.musicworl...ermn-73423.html

Kido, that looks like a great choice that will provide you a lot of years of enjoyment. 

 

Btw, since you were on the Seymour Duncan site learning about the pickups (and I see guitarben posted a good link) they have a very good learning section titled Pickups 101.  If you want to invest a bit more time it is very educational.  I learned a lot there.

 

Let us know when you get your new Strat home!


Guitars: 2013 PRS Paul's, 1972 Gibson ES-325 (Used by Steve on Live Lesson March 29, 2016), 2012 Fender American Standard Stratocaster, 2011 Gibson Les Paul Studio Deluxe, 2015 Epiphone Casino Coupe, Walden G740CE, 2012 Yamaha Pacifica
Amps: Fender Blues Junior III, Boss Eband JS-10, Boss Eband JS-8, Fender Mustang Floor multi-effects amp, Line 6 POD HD500X

Study materials:
L&M Guitar: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1112 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
L&M The Song Hits: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
L&M Blues Guitar: not started yet.
L&M Guitar Set Up and Maintenance: not started yet.
Piles & Piles of other stuff I've purchased and not started yet!


#13 Ron aka Columbo

Ron aka Columbo

    Member

  • Members
  • 1,253 posts
  • LocationHolly Springs , Georgia

Posted 20 December 2017 - 10:02 PM

All good advice Kido.. but like many here once you get one.. its off to buy more guitars.  as you can see, I too have a variety of all sorts of guitars and pickups, each one has its good and "different features".. I love collecting different guitars and sounds.. my bet is you will too.. enjoy and happy holidays!   Yes let us know what you choose. 


Ron

MY GUITARS
 2004' Fender American Stratocaster,  2013' Eastman T386,  1994' Washburn D-10,  2008' Takamine EAN 40C,  2015' Fender CD 60CE
 2015' 1966 reissue Ephiphone SG 400 Pro, 2016 Squier Classic Vibe Tele

 
MY AMPS
Fishman Loudbox 60 amp, Roland 40GX amp, Fender Mustang 1 amp
 
Looking for more toys !


#14 Kido

Kido

    Member

  • Members
  • 133 posts
  • LocationHanover, New Hampshire <=> Bucharest, Romania

Posted 01 March 2018 - 06:40 PM

Thank you guys for all your good advises, but I asked my girlfriend to marry me and she said yes :). So until September when we have the wedding I have to save money for a lot of things, but the guitar is not on that list :).

 

I put you here the video. It's in Romanian, language, but what I can tell you is that when I got in front of her my speech was gone, I tried to remember a few words and even my voice wasn't the normal one :).

 

https://www.youtube....id=zDweZlDCjgc 

 

So I still play every day with the Yamaha Pacifica, until... I don't know now :).


Learn and Master: Guitar 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20

 


#15 Matonanjin

Matonanjin

    Member

  • Moderators
  • 3,098 posts
  • LocationOmaha, NE

Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:15 AM

Kido, women have a way of changing a lot of our plans, including guitar plans.  I'm quite confident you will be glad down the road that you made the marriage proposal and put the new guitar on hold!  Until after September that Yamaha Pacifica will serve you very well..

 

Best marriage wishes!


Guitars: 2013 PRS Paul's, 1972 Gibson ES-325 (Used by Steve on Live Lesson March 29, 2016), 2012 Fender American Standard Stratocaster, 2011 Gibson Les Paul Studio Deluxe, 2015 Epiphone Casino Coupe, Walden G740CE, 2012 Yamaha Pacifica
Amps: Fender Blues Junior III, Boss Eband JS-10, Boss Eband JS-8, Fender Mustang Floor multi-effects amp, Line 6 POD HD500X

Study materials:
L&M Guitar: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1112 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
L&M The Song Hits: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
L&M Blues Guitar: not started yet.
L&M Guitar Set Up and Maintenance: not started yet.
Piles & Piles of other stuff I've purchased and not started yet!


#16 Kido

Kido

    Member

  • Members
  • 133 posts
  • LocationHanover, New Hampshire <=> Bucharest, Romania

Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:40 AM

You are funny Motonanjin :). Indeed when you are single you can do what you want, but when you are in a relation you have to consult your partner too, when you take a decision.

 

Most of the friends told me also that I'm not a pro to invest in something expensive. I don't know to play very well on this Yamaha and I want a better one, they told me. From that perspective I agree with them, because for example I learn now Kip Moore - Something about a truck, my first song that I learn that has only  barre cords. The strumming on electric is also complicated + the chorus with the voice is also very complicated and very high. On the end of the song(before the second chorus) I can't concentrate anymore and my fingers from left hand can't make the shape of the barre cords anymore. I play this song for a month almost every day and that's why I can see that I'm not that type of person, yet, that in a few days learn a song and in 2 weeks he can play that song like a pro :).


Learn and Master: Guitar 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20

 





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users