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#1 drlaptop

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 07:28 AM

Where does the time go? I joined the forum on the night of April 24 and started this course in the morning on the 25th of April. I remember that because I didn't know there were live lessons and the night of the 25th the guest was Jason Eskridge. It's hard to believe it's only been a few months.and how much I have progressed. Part of that is because parts of each session so far I remembered from 35 to 40 years ago before I played bass I learned open chords, a handful of notes and a couple of finger picking patterns and played along with LP albums and 8 track cassettes.Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment but I have been looking forward to hitting this session because I never learned Barre chords. It's brand spanking new material for me, Nope, I am not including me watching others play them as part of my experience. I am really starting to have fun and glad I picked this course. I already know to expect to hear muted strings and fret rattle tomorrow morning.

 

People that have cruised the forums have noted in places where I have mentioned how much time I am practicing the material in this course and when you are spending 6 to 8 hours a day between two practice sessions you are going to progress at a pretty good clip. Anyone would. I want to bring to peoples attention my biggest improvement that I have noted has taken place in the last 3 weeks what I changed that helped with this improvement. So that perhaps they may want to incorporate any, all or maybe even none of the parts of it into their practice routine. It's not patented and there is no big trade secret or anything like that. Prior to my change my two practice sessions were alternating tha session material between acoustic classical guitar in one session and electric guitar in the other because of the difference in the fret boards..What I have done is about 3 weeks ago I began taken 1/3 of each practice session and use it for a warm up and speed and agility workout in each session. For me I'm doing two 3 hour sessions so the first hour of each session.

 

The reference materials I use is Steve's speed and agility training with extra frets added in here and there in places, the 5 pentatonic patterns and a drawing of the c major scale of the whole entire fret all the way to the 24th fret that I made. The only part I am not using a metronome on is .the C major scale because that exercise is to memorize the notes of the fret board. I play each position where you typically find a fret mark or inlay and I say the notes aloud as I play each position from open string to the 22nd fret 3 times up then back down the fret board. Then with metronome the 5 pentatonic patterns. I make one pass of all 5 patterns then I go back to pattern 1 do it 3 times, then pattern 2 thrre times and so on until I have done all patterns 3 times each then kick up the metronome and do it again and keep doing it til you have done this 10 times. The next day start with the metronome set 5 beats faster to start off then you did the day before. I then start doing Steve's speed and agility. but I don't dial down the metronome. I start what what the metronome was set at when I finished the pentatonic scales. There is a part in Steve's video where he does a two string run up on the B and high E string from the 5th fret up to about the the pinky hits the 12th and then back down. I do the same thing except 1st fret to 22nd fret then back down, then do the same thing on the D and G and then the A and low E string. I continue the rest of the same exercises Steve demonstrates. My final exercise is something similar to what Steve does in moving up one fret however I do it on all 6 string from first fret to the 17th fret. Low E first fret chromatic to the 4th then 5th 1st fret to fourth and keep going then after you hit the 4th fret of the high E slide up one fret then play down and switch strings at the 2nd fret and keep going down. when you hit the second fret on the 6th string slide up then run back up to the first string and keep on going until you max your fret board all the while kicking up the metronome 2 and 3 beats here and there as you feel comfortable. That is what I have been doing as a warm up and then 2 to 3 hours of the classwork.

Anyone is welcome to try any part of it or none of it. I just put what I been doing out there. If you try it from the very first day write down what bpm you start and end at. Then after a week see where you are at and look at the noticeable difference. The toughest part and most time consuming part is the first day or two. Also since I started and I got the pentatonic scales forms down I started doing different things like go up 2 strings and back one string, up 2 strings and back one string or up 3 notes back down onw note, up 3 notes from there then back on note.....use your imagination with different note patterns in the pentatonics..After I feel confident I have the C scale committed to memory which wonj't be much longer for me. I'll stop the C scale and I will probably start on Steve jazz chords videos. and booklet.    


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#2 John Wells

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 11:16 AM

Congrats on your sterling progress. You've reached your first hurdle: barre chords. This is where you must pay attention to the fretting mechanics of your left forearm, wrist, hand, and fingers. Failure to do so may result in soreness that will become a problem if not prevented. Below is a website with great advice, so please watch and learn. Lotsa luck, and I must suppose you're a Raven fan, my fellow Marylander.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj6pWHxu6NE



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Posted 04 August 2017 - 11:36 PM

Well guys, Gina my wife used to say "at least he does try to use his head for more then a hat rack" this just happened to be an occasion I had success at it.


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#4 Matonanjin

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 01:49 PM

drlaptop, thank you for posting this encouraging, helpful tip.   And, yes, you're making great progress.  Thanks for sharing this.


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Posted 07 August 2017 - 02:50 AM

How many hours of pratice per day can you do ?

 

I hope that you will not try to do barre chords 1h in a row.


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#6 drlaptop

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 09:27 PM

How many hours of pratice per day can you do ?

 

I hope that you will not try to do barre chords 1h in a row.

Hi d2_racing, not sure if you caught any of my other postings or my introduction but I'm a disabled vet and I can't work at some of the things I used to. If you look closely at my picture you will see Sox one of my service dogs and also his brother Two Toez is my service dog as well. I also have Tunnie and Ben as pets but they also have been trained in tasks to help me. All of them are from the same litter from my first service dog Sarge. Sarge was a pure bred Fila or Brazillian mastiff and the trainers and breeders could not have picked a better breed of service dog for me as I have several disabilities. Tunnie is the smallest one as she is the only female and she only weighs 150 pounds. I will admit during the day I do somethings around the house or work on some things as I can or can figure out a safe or practical way for me to do them as some of them I am not supposed to do.This week's project for me is the break system on my van. I've already replaced the master cylinder and the two front calipers. I will have to take a break from the van for a day tomorrow because if I push myself too hard the pain will be very intense.

The most I have played at one time since returning to music just a few months ago has been about 16 hours which also included time on my old trusty jazz bass from my old pro days. As soon as I finish the office in the basement keyboards will be thrown into the mix. When I mention an average day it's typically Monday through Friday and between the two practice sessions I spend about 6 to 8 hours on my tele or classical. I wake up at 6:00 am get in about 3 hours with ample coffee then let the dogs out and feed them. Go do my chores, project work or dr appointments then at about 4:30 fix me dinner and feed the dogs their evening meal and then around 6:00 pm work on my lessons or more guitar training and then around 10:30 let the dogs outside for a final bathroom of the day and then get ready for bed. I guess you could say I work on barre chords for an hour. 10 to 15 minute increments during my practice sessions two or three times. One of these days I will tell you a special story about that tele and my wife.

My doctors are surprised about me playing guitar for long periods as one of my problems is the ability to remain focused and stay on a task for more then 20 mins or so. Also my concentration on playing and is such it removes me from pain. People have also seen me modify equipment to get work done. It's sort of a carry over from my engineering days. My family reminds everyone that see me I'm only disabled ...not unabled and I'm very hadicapable. Sundays I do get involved with church and one day after my playing gets decent I would love to play for a church's ministry because I owe it all to God. My country sent me off to war. It was my God that brought me home and for that I will remain humbly grateful..


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 06:17 PM

It's obvious your hands are in better shape than mine. In the past five years my hands seemed to have aged twenty years. Granted I am a few years older than you, so part of it could just be old age. In the back of my mind I can't help but to think that practicing barre chords and jazz chords were the final straw that did them in. 


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 02:13 AM

It might be age or it might be you need additional warm up and stretching. You also may need to exercise and stretch your fingers in the opposite direction then in a griping or pressing motion like you do with a fret board. The pinky of my left hand suffered an RF burn from an army radio transmitter I was working on in 84. The operator keyed the mic while I was checking the antennae. Radio frequency acts differently then AC or DC that that have a tendency to travel through the nerves or circulatory system. RF travels through the bone marrow and that injury still haunts me from time to time especially in winter. I'm also prescribed lidocaine ointment and patches that I use. Not sure if you tried any but the ointment and patches work good for me. Most doctors don't have a problem prescribing it as it's non narcotic.One tube or cream container lasts me almost 3 months and that is daily usage. Doesn't hurt to give it a try if you haven't tried it.


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Posted 17 August 2017 - 04:32 AM

Well I've had a temporary set back and missed my routine practice sessions for 5 days as life's events don't stop just because I'm relearning guitar. Needless to say this morning when I started my practice sessions back up my barre chords has shown tremendous improvement and only one slightly muted string of all the finger patterns on the first fret and no fret rattle. The only thing I can think that it is from was I was over working my fret hand on the barre chords and the break allowed the muscles in my fretting fingers to recover and I can now concentrate on getting the speed up on the songs.

The life event was a friend of mine of almost 50 years named Tim lost in his battle to cancer. Less then 24 hours after I was informed by our mutual friend of almost 50 years named Wayne. Tim and Wayne were in a band and they specialized in southern rock  like Lynard Skynard, Molly Hatchet and other groups of the same genre. Tim was lead guitarist and he was quite good. I remember back about the mid 70's I taught Tim his first chords and later Tim taught my younger brother his first leads. Wayne and Tim had heard I was getting back into playing and they had approached me on sitting in on a few sessions with my bass just to have fun but things didn't turn out because Tim was touch and go. Tim was cremated and there was no viewing. Tim wanted everyone to remember him in good health and the good times so he also wanted a jam session with all the musicians he grew up with, played in and any bands they are in as well. He wasn't able to work so naturally his wife and mom need help with expenses so Wayne has coordinated a fundraiser and jam session the third weekend in September. Tim was so well known in this neck of the woods Wayne already has 5 bands scheduled and at least 30 additional musicians. Yes I will be sitting in on a few with my bass but apparently I also get to play my first lead ever in public.

Wayne asked me if I was up to playing lead to one Tim's favorite songs. I said if it's hard there is no way I can pull it off in time. Wayne said don't worry I think you can, heck it's so simple I can play it. I said OK what is it,  so I know whether I can do it or not. Wayne turned and handed me the Tab for "Tuesday's Gone"and said you probably know it already. So guys it looks like I'm learning my very first lead to play live. I know it will be good. It's not fast nor intricate but I know people will feel it because it will come from my heart.


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