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#1 meh190

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 04:58 AM

Dear Vince

I need your counselling. I would really thankful if you help me. I want to buy a new DSLR camera. I researched a lot and finally select 3 models: Canon EOS 60D, Canon EOS 7D and Nikon D7000. Now i'm doubtful about these 3 models which i should buy. so Canon EOS 7d is a little bit expensive for me rather than the two others. i want to know your suggestion about these 3 choices. which of them u suggest me to buy. or if u have the other models.

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#2 Whoosh

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 06:59 AM

Choose the lens first, and then with your remaining budget choose the camera.
Plenty of camera websites out there - The Fred Miranda site has got a good selection of user reviews for lenses.
You can always hire or borrow lenses as well.
Good luck!


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:52 AM

Hi,

I'm not Vince (obviously) but will try to help a little if I may...

It all comes down to budget and what you want/need... there are a million cameras out there that will do a pefectly good job. As a general rule, the more you pay the better the camera will be but do you need the extra bells and whisltes or not? Only you can know that. You haven't said what you want to shoot or are interested in, or your experience, so we'll keep things generalised...

There's something of a difference between the way Canon and Nikon go about things: it's not a case of one is better than the other, just that they're different - I recommend visiting a store and having a play with each of the bodies you're interested in because you'll want the one that fits in your hand nicely and feels comfortable to use. Once you've made the Canon/Nikon decision this will affect everything you buy afterwards (lenses, flashes etc) so make sure you're happy with both the camera, and the other extras you may buy too. As a general rule btw, the 'kit' lenses supplied with many bodies are generally not great - so don't get sucked into buying anything that looks too good to be true.

To be honest, these days any one of the multitude of reasonably priced DSLR's will be perfectly capable of producing anything most amateur photographers will want from them - they're all very capable and offer all the normal modes you will use. Ultimately, it's about the vision behind the camera, not the box with the hole in the front.
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#4 meh190

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:47 PM

Thank you Whoosh and TiredRob for your responses.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 01:57 AM

Choose the lens first, and then with your remaining budget choose the camera.


I agree. You will get more mileage out of a really good lens even if the camera body doesn't have all the latest bells and whistles, but if you plunk a large amount of money into a camera body but skimp on the quality of the lens, most likely your images won't be as sharp.

Fast lenses (f/2.8 or faster) will offer superior crispness, but the compromise is that they are heavier to carry. I have a Sigma lens that gives me incredible shots, but it is big and somewhat heavy. I use a waist pack to carry the camera body, this lens, and a less expensive Nikon telephoto lens which offers pretty nice images. Many other lens manufacturers such as Tamron, Tokina, and Sigma offer some stellar lenses which are usually a little less expensive than Nikon/Canon brand lenses. Here is a pic taken with the Sigma lens:

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#6 Matonanjin

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 12:32 AM

@meh190, listen to what TiredRob said. I can't add anything to that. Just to reiterate that just about any DSLR out there today will do what you need it to do.


Choose the lens first, and then with your remaining budget choose the camera.


Fast lenses (f/2.8 or faster) will offer superior crispness, but the compromise is that they are heavier to carry.


Not entirely correct. A fast lens will offer more speed (light). Most lenses are at maximum sharpness (I assume what you mean by crispness?) stopped down a couple stops. So presumably a 2.8 lens will be at maximum sharpness at about F/5.6 where a F/4.0 lens will be at maximum sharpness at about F/8.0. But this is so variable from lens to lens and manufacturer to manufacturer that it is difficult to take as gospel. Canon L lenses really get sharp after only stopping down about 1 stop. Some are razor sharp wide open.

You are correct that a faster lens is going to be heavier. And more expensive! :shocked:

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#7 ElectricBoogie

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 08:08 AM

I've been taking photos for a very long time and CANON has been the best in every way for me, especially how I can interswap the lenses between my camera and video cameras.

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#8 Vince Wallace

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:43 PM

I'm guessing you've already made your choice by now. All above advice great. If you're beginning the main thing is to start inexpensively, learn your camera first (ISO, shutter, aperture), learn to shoot manually, and then pick up more expensive gear as your needs change. You can always sell your gear and start over with another brand later if you really want to after you know more about what you're doing and what you want. No real loss. All the best!

#9 NeilES335

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 04:53 AM

I see this is a very old thread ut here goes...I am considering a Nikon d3200 dslr for my first upgrade from a basic pocket point shoot...any commentsor opinionsor this equipment?

#10 Matonanjin

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 05:39 PM

Neil, get back in the guitar forum where you belong!!  newsmile095.gif   I have always been a Canon shooter so I am not at all familiar with the Nikon family so I won't be able to help you at all with this model.  I have always put a lot of confidence in DP Review and here is what they have to say.  That review does look fairly positive.

 

The reality is, since you are upgrading from a point and shoot, any modern DSLR, Canon or Nikon, is going to be all the camera you need for quite some time.  Today's DSLRs are so powerful and feature laden they are going to do everything that you want to do for a lot of months (or years depending on how much time you spend learning its features).

 

Just when you get ready to invest be sure to allow enough in the budget for lenses.  Most DSLR's today comes with a single medium wide angle to medium telephoto lens.  This is fine for a majority of shooting.  But depending on your intended use you will probably need another lens.  As an example, if you are going to be shooting your kids' (I don't know if you have any) soccer games you may need a longer telephoto zoom.   Or, conversely, if you intend to shoot a lot of landscapes you may want to invest in a wider zoom. 

 

I know this isn't very specific and thusly not very helpful.   But the bottom line is that all of today's "prosumer" DSLR's are so powerful it is really hard to go wrong with whatever you pick. 


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#11 NeilES335

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 11:32 PM

Hey Matonanjin;  

Ok, so I strayed into new territory!  I got the Nikon D3200 with the 18mm zoom lens and another telephoto lens together in a package deal.. I'm just studying the manual and trying to figure it out on my own. There's a couple of books out there I might get to help me. But overall, it doesn't look super complicated...

I can just use the automatic or guide mode most of the time it think; probably get a tripod and a better flash to bounce off the ceiling.I'll use it mainly for work, taking shots of homes I list for sale.

I think the quality of the images should be very good. Looking forward to using it. Cant see myself ever wanting anything better at this point....

People tell me I take good photos already with cheap equipment, so who knows... another hobby or career maybe?

 

I took these with a pocket HP point /shoot and adjusted them with free software PhotoScape

 

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happy pictures... :tunes:  :tunes: 

 

Oh by the way Matonanjin (what's your real first name anyway?) Thanks for the link to the review!



#12 Matonanjin

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 03:15 PM

Neil, good job on those photos.  Very sharp with a point&shoot in what I guess was very low light.

 

Oh by the way Matonanjin (what's your real first name anyway?) Thanks for the link to the review!

 

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#13 NeilES335

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 04:43 AM

Thx Ron...yup..just natural light ...turn on all the house lights and the built in flash on the pns . Justa cheap hp 8mpxl but it does a pretty good job for this purpose. Just it takes too long to edit the 30 + shots i need so i hope tge new Nikon will get better results with less editing.

How did u get the handle Matonanin? From Maton guitars? Its kinda tough to say... ( no offense intended)

#14 cntryblues

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 05:30 PM

My Wife has the d3100 kind of starter package, and I got her the tameron 28-270 to go with it...

She loves it... just wishes she had a longer range to get closer to her bird pictures....

 

IMHO... it is a good choice....

 

And coming from an old Cannon AE1 shooter that is saying something...LOL

 

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#15 NeilES335

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 05:49 PM

Thanks CB... I have a Nikon 50 > 200mm zoom lens with the package I got too.. Havent tried it yet but looking forward to pics of sunsets, landscapes, birds etc. too.

 

I'm also interested in the video capabilities for the purpose of recording myself playing guitar and posting (if I get up the nerve to do so...:-)My dear wife says "" you better learn to play a whole song right through first!"  (Noodlers Unite!)

 

I remember the Canon AE 1 35mm, which I really wanted but never got... it was a great camera. I guess some are still around for those that prefer film.



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Posted 25 June 2015 - 03:41 PM

My dad still has his and mine... he used mine as a spare body ....LOL


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#17 Matonanjin

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 07:23 PM

I had a Canon AE-1 back in the 80's. I loved it.  During a period of real stupidity recently (more than normal) I sold it on Ebay.  I've regretted it ever since.  I've since gone back to film with a medium format but I am still P.o.'d about selling the AE-1.


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#18 darlaud

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 04:34 PM

Making a decision today as to buying the Mark 4. Any suggestions would be welcome.



#19 darlaud

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 04:46 PM

By the way am upgrading from a Nikon 300s. It was expensive back in the day.



#20 Matonanjin

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 05:32 PM

Making a decision today as to buying the Mark 4. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Which Mark 4?


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Piles & Piles of other stuff I've purchased and not started yet!





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