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#1 savage8190

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 04:29 PM

Congrats.

I've ventured so far off the path I dont know that I'll ever wander back and finish this course...but I sure am greatful for it. Never would have come this far without it.
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Posted 03 October 2010 - 04:32 PM

Congrats :D

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 12:29 AM

Congratulations!

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#4 grinta

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 12:08 AM

Guys, this seems like a fairly old post but I need to to tell someone -

YEAH, I'VE FINISHED THE COURSE.

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put the champaign on ice,
I'm coming in,
to Sin City"


Hopes someone reads it.

In fact your questions are very pertinant. In fact I finished the course about 2 months ago I am only now getting a feel for what I've accomplished.

There was no fanfare, just a suttle sense of accomplishment.

To answer your questions:

Yes I am definately a better player, probably much better than what I thought I could be (thanks to Steve) but now that I know what can be achieved I want more.

So yes, I probably will want to take face to face lessons to delve into the specific techniques of styles such as jazz & 50's rock & roll.

As far as future practice plans, I'll stick with Steve's advise & dedicate a set amount of time to a determined subject, conquer it & move to the next challenge, I've already got the Blues Spotlight Course in the computer so back to basics.

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 07:31 PM

Congratulations Adrien and William!

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 02:37 PM

Well done Reggie - "Perseverance Furthers" - but you gotta tell the story of the reward guitar man. :D

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 01:19 AM

congrats Adrien, and good to see you back!
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Posted 03 September 2010 - 08:43 PM

Reggie Man!! Long time no see. Congrats on finishing the course!!

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 02:25 PM

Thanks for sharing, Reggie, great post!
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Posted 03 September 2010 - 09:30 AM

Congrats :D

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 10:24 PM

It's been a long time coming, but I've finally finished the course! :D From start to finish, it's taken about 2 and a half years to complete both the course and bonus content. Finishing took longer than I'd expected, but my free time is shared among way too many interests, and I've had a few stops and starts along the way. Finishing has been a challenge, but I consider it well worth the rewards, and feel a nice sense of accomplishment from it.

The topic of rewarding yourself with a new guitar for finishing the course has come up before. I'd promised myself that I could get a Taylor T5 once I finished the course, and many times, this has provided me the extra motivation to dig in and do the hard work to get over a hump. For example, I'd stalled on session 19 and drifted away from the course for months, but knowing I couldn't have my T5 until I got the work done brought me back. Oddly enough, I ended up getting a different guitar as my reward, but I'll share that story in a separate topic.

Before the course, I had a strong classical guitar background. This let me coast through the basics of note reading, chords and the finger style session, but aside from that, most of the material was new to me. I would now consider myself to be a more well rounded guitarist, being intermediate level in general.

The most difficult aspect of the course for me was barre chords. I knew the general concepts going in, but they usually buzzed a lot and were quite painful. I'd burnt my index finger quite badly in the past, and despite healing well cosmetically, I think damage to muscles/tendons in the finger made barre chords more of a challenge for me than it is for most people. I stuck with it though, at times I had to move on to something else to avoid sheer boredom if nothing else, but after many months of grinding away at it, I no longer avoid them. I'm comfortable enough with them now that I can do chord work consisting mostly of barre chords for an hour or more. My hand will be somewhat sore after that, and I'd probably prefer to break that up with something else, but it's not a handicap to my guitar playing anymore. You know you've got a handle on barre chords when you find yourself intentionally picking a barre chord over an open chord! :P

As for my future guitar plans, I have the blues spotlight course and I'm excited to get started on that! I also have the "Blues You Can Use" course, and I'll supplement the L&MG course with that for variety. After working through L&MG, I have a new appreciation for jazz guitar and would like to expand my guitar horizons in that direction as well. (Any recommendations for jazz instruction, aside from the resources Steve mentioned in the course?) I'm also feeling more confident to play with other musicians, and am going to be looking for more opportunities to jam with others.

As others have mentioned in the past, I have completed the course, but am by no means "done" with it. I view it similarly to completing a traditional course (whether in school or otherwise) - I've met all the requirements and covered the content, but that doesn't mean I have completely mastered everything. There is plenty of opportunity to enhance my playing and understanding by reviewing the L&MG content, and I can see myself coming back to it a fair deal in the near future at least.

I haven't had time to be a regular in the community lately, but I have learned a lot from you all and enjoyed our discussions, so I wanted to share my success!

Adrien.

#12 Eddie N

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:50 AM

Congratz William!

thanks for sharing!
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 04:09 PM

Congrats... that is awesome... I'm on my way and hope to be there in the next year or so... still on session 4 :)...
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 11:03 AM

Congrats :D Thanks for sharing your story. :D

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#15 tsherkin

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:14 PM

Congratulations on finishing, and thanks for sharing; that's a great story to hear! :D
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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:25 PM

Congrats on finishing the course William. And I sure am envious about your opportunities to play jazz. I sure wish I could find something like that around here.
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Posted 08 August 2010 - 06:41 PM

Congrats on finishing the course and congrats on getting out there and putting it to use!

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 05:36 PM

Congrats on completing the course William - sounds like you've got a great opportunity to pursue your music farther. Best of luck!
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#19 Liam

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 05:09 PM

Indulge me please – I finished the course.

20 months later I have completed the 20 sessions based on the “you are ready to move on” criteria for each session. I had to really focus on completing the course at the end. I tend to not finish well. Like, take two years to get the final 2 credit hours to graduate college, or slow way down on the final K of a 10K run. It seems that from Session 10 on there are a lot of things to distract from completion of the course. That’s fine. Learning to play the guitar competently I think is the goal, not necessarily finishing the course. But I wanted to finish as one of my goals. Good for me.

Shortly after I started the course I was invited to sit in at a neighborhood New Years Bluegrass Jam. We are talking 20 people who normally do not all play together, playing guitar, fiddle, mandolin, up right bass, cello, and banjo (train wreck). At that time I could follow the simple open chord 1- 4- 5’s. I did not know any of the songs but they put the chord progressions on the table and I could follow close enough. When it came my time to lead a break, I declined. When it came my time to play a song I did my signature fallback song – Paradise by John Prine. It was a hit as the chords are easy and everyone knew the chorus.

Flash-forward a year, and I am again invited to the neighborhood train wreck New Years Bluegrass Jam. Everything went about the same as far as rhythm and chords, but when it came my time to lead a break I took it. I played out of the pentatonic scale patterns and through some arpeggios in from Session 14. The general comment was “wow – you have really improved”. The stand up bass player who invites me each year responded to these comments with “he practices every day”. Ego boost for me! Also a “practice every day” motivational boost.

Six months later (last week actually) I get invited to a free group guitar and mandolin lesson that is held every Sunday at a local winery and tasting bar. The guy who is teaching the free course is a local luthier who makes $5,000 guitars and mandolins. I sit in with 2 stand up basses, 3 other guitars and 4 mandolins. The music is swing jazz and they all have been playing the songs for months. The song they were working on was Little Rock Getaway – not an easy piece of work. I fake it as best I can and play quiet. I get the nod to lead a break maybe 5 times in the 2-hour lesson. I hold my own I think considering all things. The song is in the Key of C, so I use the C major scale and move around the neck using a running arpeggio. One of the other guitars was a fellow who was at the last train wreck Bluegrass Jam. His comment to his wife who relayed it to my wife was “zooks – he has really improved in six months.

The luthier/instructor announces at the end of the free lesson that he has decided to teach a one-hour guitar lesson and a separate one-hour mandolin lesson Thursday afternoons. He will charge $45 for the hour and how every many guitars are there can divide the cost. So I went last Thursday. One hour for $15. One student owned one of his guitars and had been playing for a little over a year. The other guitarist was a local performing musician. Again, the format was jazz swing. The song we are learning is Redwing (think Arlo Guthery – you can’t scare me I’m sticking with the union). It is a traditional standard Texas Swing song, up-tempo with 2 beat chord changes, 6’s, dominants, minor and major 7ths. He chose this song for the great running bass line set up by the chord changes – and the chord forms - Key of A. We have to learn it in two different positions on the neck. Wow! Now I’ve got Little Rock Getaway and Redwing to learn– both up-tempo swing songs I can play with other student musicians.

One of the stand up bass players, who performs publicly, then asks me to get together with her once a week or so to jam. Imagine – a bass player wants to play music with me! She wants to play more jazz swing and break out of her bluegrass rut. Turns out, there is a movement in the large local bluegrass community. Some of the better musicians want to play jazz swing and guitar players that can carry the rhythm are needed.

So now I am playing out with other student musicians three days a week. Last year I was playing out less than once a week and playing with guys that did not really practice. The year before that I was not playing with anyone – just me and my beginning L&MG course.

It amazes me that completion of this course is dovetailing with an opportunity to “move on” to play jazz swing with so many local student musicians. And the cost in minimal!

Thomas Edison wrote: “Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work”.

I owe my ability to recognize and move forward on this local jazz swing opportunity to the 20 months I spent diligently studying and trusting the process as presented by Steve Krentz - Learn and Master Guitar. Thank you Steve. As a bonus I now consider myself a student musician for life.

I will continue to monitor the community boards as I feel like I have some family here – and it is just one of the things I do over coffee in the AM.

Best to all and thanks for your indulgence.


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Course Completed – August 8, 2010

#20 tsherkin

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 08:41 PM

Thanks. And congrats to you also for finishing the course.


Thanks right back at you. :D

I agree with what you said, the books are great reference books. I've already found myself going back through them and looking stuff up.


LMG remains a huge part of my practice routine... most of the second half of it, actually. I find it really valuable for keeping myself together as far as chords and theory go. I found it very much an echo of my own thoughts when you talked about forgetting things that you don't use regularly, as a matter of fact, which is why I don't think I'll ever really put away LMG; it's got so much that pertains to the stuff that I find to be my weakest areas that it just can't be far from me. I'm always rifling through it for reference, or to remind myself of something, or to figure out something about chords or intervals or whatever.

In September, I'm starting up the Berklee online courses that will eventually build towards the Guitar Master Certificate, so I'm trying to figure out if I want to do Chords 101 or Scales 101 first (the basic, entry-level stuff) and even when I'm doing that, I'll have LMG on-hand.

It's just always there when I'm practicing, and that doesn't seem likely to change unless I miraculously develop an eidetic memory. And I still totally go into the videos all the time; Steve just infects me with the joy of music, so sometimes I don't even look at what video I'm turning on, lol.

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