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#21 country boy

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 04:25 PM

LOL!
Next year will be my first year to attend.
I vote for Nashville.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 04:47 PM

Kind of funny that this debates getting a little heated over something that's ultimately not even up to our decision.

....now, let's get back to the subject of prostitution and gambling :pianodancer:



That made me laugh out loud. Thanks. tom

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 06:12 PM

Kind of funny that this debates getting a little heated over something that's ultimately not even up to our decision.

....now, let's get back to the subject of prostitution and gambling :pianodancer:


Lol, I don't see a debate here. I see someone suggesting something silly and we're all telling him how silly he is. :electricguitar:

Cus you're right, we have 0 control over it. And there is no way Legacy is going to spend money, instead of make it, to hold a gathering.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 08:25 PM

How about New Orleans? Music AND FOOD! ANd yeah (unfortunately) they do have the casinos.

Did I mention FOOD?

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 09:32 PM

I’m with Patrick on this. I didn’t go to the Gathering this year to enjoy the sights and sounds of Nashville. I attended for the opportunity to improve as a guitar player AND to meet other guitar enthusiasts. It was a wonderful experience and I hope to do it again. Other than short trips to get something to eat, I only left the hotel twice and that was for a concert at the Ryman and our tour of Gruhn’s. The rest of the time I had a guitar in my lap or I was talking about guitar.

Attendance was down? I didn’t know that and don’t care. I could not possibly have had a better time.

And Floyd, you have a point. This was the first time my wife and I have been apart for more than a day or two at a time in 35 years. We both loved it. She’s already asking me if it’s time to make reservations for next year.

I vote Nashville but I’ll come to wherever it is that you folks decide to gather.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 10:47 PM

You are kidding aren't you...


And what is wrong with the idea of a European convention?
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 11:58 PM


You are kidding aren't you...


And what is wrong with the idea of a European convention?


Everyone drives on the wrong side of the road? No Nashville?......I could go on

On the other hand.... If you have it in Germany you can get some really good beer :-)

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:41 AM

2011 was my second year in a row.
Lord willing there will be many more trips to it in the future.
Why worry bout making the event bigger?
If it were bigger I would be less likely to attend as I love the small group and personal interaction it feeds.
The low point for this year for me was seeing Vince Gill live at the Ryman. Why? Vince did a great show and is a great performer but there I was just one of a thousand or more spectators. The rest of the week was interacting with top musicians personally.
A bigger group means less interaction with artists and instructors and less time with Steve or Greg.

This is a great time put together by people who share and love the product behind it. That is how it all started. Thank you to the few of you who had the vision to get it from idea to reality!

It won't go away until the passion for it does and I pray that enough of us encourage Steve to keep it going because without him, it would be just jam sessions among students without instructors, artists, etc. which is not worth the travel and hotel costs.

With Gibson sponsoring and advertising and hosting weekly lessons, the course is going to take off and in a year or two, the problem is going to be one of how to keep the small intimate atmosphere that Legacy Gathering has today.

Steve - you are awesome. You have such a heart for teaching guitar and being with people. You are greatly appreciated. You are walking through tough times at home yet you are able to pour yourself into this as well. May God continue to guide and bless your family!

If there was a poll, my preference is to keep it the size it is, keep Steve as the leader, and keep it in Nashville.

Hope to see you next year!!!!!

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:07 AM

2011 was my second year in a row.
Lord willing there will be many more trips to it in the future.
Why worry bout making the event bigger?
If it were bigger I would be less likely to attend as I love the small group and personal interaction it feeds.
The low point for this year for me was seeing Vince Gill live at the Ryman. Why? Vince did a great show and is a great performer but there I was just one of a thousand or more spectators. The rest of the week was interacting with top musicians personally.
A bigger group means less interaction with artists and instructors and less time with Steve or Greg.

This is a great time put together by people who share and love the product behind it. That is how it all started. Thank you to the few of you who had the vision to get it from idea to reality!

It won't go away until the passion for it does and I pray that enough of us encourage Steve to keep it going because without him, it would be just jam sessions among students without instructors, artists, etc. which is not worth the travel and hotel costs.

With Gibson sponsoring and advertising and hosting weekly lessons, the course is going to take off and in a year or two, the problem is going to be one of how to keep the small intimate atmosphere that Legacy Gathering has today.

Steve - you are awesome. You have such a heart for teaching guitar and being with people. You are greatly appreciated. You are walking through tough times at home yet you are able to pour yourself into this as well. May God continue to guide and bless your family!

If there was a poll, my preference is to keep it the size it is, keep Steve as the leader, and keep it in Nashville.

Hope to see you next year!!!!!



Very nicely said. I couldn't agree more.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:47 AM



You are kidding aren't you...


And what is wrong with the idea of a European convention?


Everyone drives on the wrong side of the road? No Nashville?......I could go on

On the other hand.... If you have it in Germany you can get some really good beer :-)


Most of Europe drives on the same side of the road as the USA, only the UK, Ireland and Malta are different (blame Napoleon for that one...).
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:49 AM


You are kidding aren't you...


And what is wrong with the idea of a European convention?


Didn't you guys try this and not get enough attendance to make it happen?
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:35 PM



You are kidding aren't you...


And what is wrong with the idea of a European convention?


Didn't you guys try this and not get enough attendance to make it happen?

If they had done it in vegas with gambling and prostititution then it would have been a succes!













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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:17 PM


You all are thinking with your hearts and not thinking about Legacy Learning's purse strings. If attendance keeps declining there will be no more gatherings.

Here's an example conversation from someone taking the course who 'might' consider going to a gathering.

Scenario1 --
ChetAtkinsJr: Honey, there's a guitar gathering this year with tons of workshops and master courses.
Wife: Where is it? And when is it?
ChetAtkinsJr: Nashville. It's on XXXX, and I'd have to take 3 days of vacation. And it'll cost $XXX.XX for the flight, hotel, and registration.
Wife: You're kidding me? you're going to take 3 days of paid vacation away from our family, and spend XXX.XX for guitar workshops?
ChetAtkinsJr: You can come with me if you like?
Wife: NO

Scenario2 --
ChetAtkinsJr: Honey, there's a guitar gathering this year with tons of workshops and master courses.
Wife: Where is it? And when is it?
ChetAtkinsJr: Las Vegas. It's on XXXX, and I'd have to take 3 days vacation, and it'll cost $XXX.XX. And you can come along.
Wife: Okay.. I'll pack my bags.


Ok, you're becoming a troll here bro. You're just making ***** up and selling it as the truth.

1 - The numbers this year dropped because we're in a RECESSION, not because it was in Nashville.
2 - I would estimate that 75% of the people that attend, or would attend, live on the East Coast or near to it (Ohio, etc). Putting in in Vegas would eliminate 95% of those people from going, as they drive.
3 - Saying there "will be no more gatherings" is just simply foolish. Where do you get this stuff??? If you're going to try to make a point, then don't sensationalize it and put in a bunch of BS that you think... put in FACTS instead of your opinion made to look like facts (poorly) and you may get support.
4 - Most married men would rather have the vacation from the wife, so why would they want to go where she wants to follow?

Oh, and if you think that Legacy makes a bunch of money from this Gathering? You're kidding yourself. Steve can confirm, but I estimate that Legacy makes no more than a couple thousand dollars from the Gathering after they pay their guests and Hotel fees. That is not a fact, it's an estimation... but if you can do math you can add up the numbers and figure it out for yourself.



Wow... a mere suggestion of venue change garners such rage. I was at the 2010 gathering, so why would you consider me a troll for making a suggestion?

Item #1 - If you read my initial post, I say that smaller attendance is most likely due to the economy. Never do I say it's due to the venue (Nashville).

Item #2 - You can get roundtrip tickets to Vegas from anywhere in the country for around $200.00. Have you seen the price of gas these days?

Item #3 - I never said there would be no more gatherings.. I merely alluded to the fact that if there continues to be a trend of smaller attendance, then I doubt Legacy will continue them. And when I mentioned Legacy's 'purse-strings', I did not suggest that Legacy considers this a profit venture. I'm sure their highest priority is making sure they at least break-even for the hard work they do.

Item #4 - Your comment is totally subjective, and I freely admit my example conversations in my post are totally subjective as well. Everyone is different, but you must agree that if it is the case that both husband and wife work together in financial decisions, being on the same page usually works best.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:25 PM

SNIP

Oh, and if you think that Legacy makes a bunch of money from this Gathering? You're kidding yourself. Steve can confirm, but I estimate that Legacy makes no more than a couple thousand dollars from the Gathering after they pay their guests and Hotel fees. That is not a fact, it's an estimation... but if you can do math you can add up the numbers and figure it out for yourself.


Hi Floyd,

You're correct. I believe Legacy actually LOST a bit of money on it this year. I think they make up for that loss in long term benefits, though. The encouragement, inspiration and fellowship imparted at the gatherings builds a reputation that's spread both by word of mouth & through us, here at the LMG forum. There's no doubt that we get a lot of visitors here who see all of the help & stimulation that's provided and that can be the factor that pushes them over the edge in deciding to buy the course. :happywarrior:

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:30 PM



You are kidding aren't you...


And what is wrong with the idea of a European convention?


Didn't you guys try this and not get enough attendance to make it happen?


Er, not quite! Legacy decided to pull the plug as they thought they would not get enough numbers. A little different from not getting enough numbers.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:38 PM

I will go if it is in Nashville. I will not pay the costs to go to Las Vegas.
I would bet that the costs of holding one in Vegas would be much more than Legacy paid in Nashville - but I have no actual knowledge.
I want to go to Nashville because of the Opry, 16th Ave, Steve lives there, works there, the artists I'd like to see are there.
My intention for next year is to bring my wife. Afterwards, We will be going down some of the Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail in Alabama, then over to the Monmouth Plantation in Natchez, Ms. for several days of relaxation. We're going to make it a 2 week vacation to make up for the one we didn't get this year for our 30th anniversary.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:41 PM

I very much doubt the gathering will be held anywhere other than Nashville & having attended I thing Nashville will remain its rightful home.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 05:22 PM

I very much doubt the gathering will be held anywhere other than Nashville & having attended I thing Nashville will remain its rightful home.


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Posted 22 July 2011 - 07:18 PM

1- you didn't suggest a venue.


Err... yes he did suggest a venue. in his very first post he suggested moving the conference to Vegas will be GUARANTEED to save the dwindling attendance. Your other points are well taken though.

I think if bpe4 handn't offered to bet money on the idea and guarantee a lot of takers, it would have been a short forum. Sure has been fun reading! :biggrin1:
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 07:25 PM

1 - The numbers this year dropped because we're in a RECESSION, not because it was in Nashville.



---> Actually the recession ended the 4th quarter of '09:

http://www.tradingec...ates/gdp-growth

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