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#1 TobiH

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:46 AM

Hi

I jumped into S7 yesterday.

for once the big hands come in at an advantage and I can get barre chords to ring clean with relative ease.

Now, I am 6"7 so I have big hands and long fingers. If I want to play the F-Shape and get my other fingers to join the index finger on the fret board, i can either go with a long, straight finger overshooting the fretboard quite a bit, or bend the index finger - which Steve seems to warn about.

See two photos below - which is the method I should get used to?

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I know that it looks like the short finger mutes the lower strings but that's not the case - on board at an angle...

Feedback much appreciated.

T
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#2 magnus80a

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:37 AM

I also have big hands with long fingers. I've gotten used to overshooting with my index finger and so far it has served me well.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:53 AM

Big hands and long fingers are certainly assets to playing barre chords, both 6th and 5th string varieties. BTW, that's an F# barre in your pics. Lotsa luck.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:53 PM

I have fairly large hands and long fingers too. Maybe that's why I like chords so much! I don't think I overshoot that much though. Don't have a guitar at work. Bummer...

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:03 PM

Big hands and long fingers are certainly assets to playing barre chords, both 6th and 5th string varieties. BTW, that's an F# barre in your pics. Lotsa luck.

"F-shape"...

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:08 AM

thx all for the feedback - I think that short of an opposing instruction from Steve I'll overshoot for now...
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:10 AM

Another option is to buy a guitar with a wider neck. My Seagull S6 has a 1.80" wide nut vs. the 1.69" of most guitars. I have no problem going back and forth between my S6 and a standard neck, but there's a little more room for the fingers on the S6. You look like you've got some serious SRV sausages there!!!

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#8 TobiH

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:49 AM

Another option is to buy a guitar with a wider neck. ... You look like you've got some serious SRV sausages there!!!



Ha ha. They are big but that's an iPhone pic so wide angle distorted too. I don't have a problem with the neck size, just want to make sure I get used to the right position.

It's a Tokai rendition of a Gibson 355.

Although maybe you are right and I do need a Gretsch 6120 ;)
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:56 AM

GAS!!! GAS!!! GAS!!! Posted Image

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:10 AM


Big hands and long fingers are certainly assets to playing barre chords, both 6th and 5th string varieties. BTW, that's an F# barre in your pics. Lotsa luck.

"F-shape"...



isn't it really an E-shape barre chord?
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:53 AM

Wow, you have a big set of hands.
I wish mine were a bit bigger too.

Trekkiemnstr is correct, it is an E-shape barre chord.
One usually talks about the movable chords in the CAGED-system, where each open chord shape from the chords C,A,G,E,D can be barred.

I have always been told to hold the barring finger stright so I guess that is the preferred way.

In your case I suspect you will do it another way when you progress.
If you use the thumb to hold the low E-string, you get one finger left to do all kind of cool stuff.
That is the way Jimi Hendrix played to get his famous riffs.
But that is another lesson in a distant future...

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:36 AM



Big hands and long fingers are certainly assets to playing barre chords, both 6th and 5th string varieties. BTW, that's an F# barre in your pics. Lotsa luck.

"F-shape"...



isn't it really an E-shape barre chord?

Yes, I was just emphasizing that the OP referred to a shape and not a specific chord.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 03:39 PM

Congrats, enjoy your session 7 ! ! !

My fingers are a bit shorter than yours, I'm 1,87m and I use the straight finger shape as on the 1st photo.
On the 2nd photo, the problem is that if you need to do a pull of with the 2nd finger or you pinky you'll get a buzz or the open string note.

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#14 Gatto

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 12:45 PM

If I were you, I will go with the first option ... :whistling: when I use the second option, it doesn´t work with minor forms for me, because the third string sounds really buzzy.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:20 AM

TobiH, It Dosen't Matter You can play a Barre Chord With small and big hands Just Practice It.I think you should work on the first picture in your post. Just try to play the correct number for each Barre Chord.


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#16 TobiH

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:07 PM

Thx, I am REALLY struggling to stay motivated with this session but will soldier on - I hope
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:41 AM

Hi

I jumped into S7 yesterday.

for once the big hands come in at an advantage and I can get barre chords to ring clean with relative ease.

Now, I am 6"7 so I have big hands and long fingers. If I want to play the F-Shape and get my other fingers to join the index finger on the fret board, i can either go with a long, straight finger overshooting the fretboard quite a bit, or bend the index finger - which Steve seems to warn about.

See two photos below - which is the method I should get used to?

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I know that it looks like the short finger mutes the lower strings but that's not the case - on board at an angle...

Feedback much appreciated.

T






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